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Everything you wanted to know about Bobby Fischer and his relations with women.


 

Regina Fischer
Joan Fischer
Mrs. Piatigorsk
Petra Dautov
Zita Raiczanyi
Justine Ong
A. Kosteniuk
Barbara Streisand
Polina Khropov
ChessMothers
Dutch girl
Cindy
Miyoko Watai
Susan Polgar

Regina Fischer

Despite his negative comment on women there is no question about the important role women played in Fischer’s life, in every aspect. To begin with his mother.

In 1961 a serious rift between mother and eighteen year old son developed. In that year she participated in a much publicized peace march from San Francisco to Moscow. After that she remained in Europe, where she married her second husband, Cyril Pustan, a college English teacher, and resumed her medical studies.

What led to the battle between her and Bobby no one knows; neither one is in any way communicative. But sometime in his adolescence there was a terrible fight, and since then the two have allegedly not spoken to one another. Even when Bobby won the world championship, his lifelong dream, his mother was not present to congratulate him. 
Ruben Fine, Bobby Fischer's Conquest of the World's Chess Championship 1973

The latest findings on Regina in the FBI reports learned us much more about her. It is striking how much she resembled her son, not only in his honesty and his fight for justice. 

The Fbi report found Regina as intelligent and bright, but also, in the words of an informant as “really unbearable”. One source described her as ‘antagonistic’ and ‘quarrelsome’. All tenants in their flat in Brooklyn disliked Regina, and it was said that Regina had a “lawsuit complex”. The municipal psychiatric institute gave her the diagnoses of an ‘affected (paranoid) personality, sickly complaining but not psychotic'.
From “Bobby Fischer Goes To War”. By David Edmonds and John Eiidinow"

Eidinow says that he and Edmonds, who are both Jewish, came to the tentative conclusion that Fischer's future antisemitism "was part of his rejection of his mother, with whom he had a very turbulent relationship."
Forward

 

Bobby Fischer            His mother

Her relationship with Bobby got so bad that they could not live together. In 1961, she moved out, leaving her teenage son alone in a Brooklyn apartment. 

The complexity of the mother-son relationship emerged in the 1962 Harper's interview. At one point Bobby displayed the anti-Semitism that would become his fixation in middle age. He said chess was peopled with too many Jews, who dressed poorly and detracted from the "class of the game." The interviewer asked, "You're Jewish, aren't you?" "Part Jewish. My mother is Jewish."
From “Life is not a board”. By Peter Nicholas and Clea Benson   

By the end of her life, mother and son had reconciled. Susan Polgar, a Hungarian grandmaster whose family befriended Bobby in the early '90s, said at the time that the two were speaking regularly by phone, which is confirmed by this fragment from Petra Dautov's book. 

“Moreover I have to call up my mother,” explained Bobby. “She had her birthday a few days ago, and I did not yet reach her. She speaks good German; maybe you want to congratulate her too? She would be certainly happy with that.” 
“Very gladly. Which day is her birthday?”
“31 March.”
“The same day as me. Isn’t her first name Regina?” 
“Yes.”
“That’s my second name.”
“That’s magnificent. You have to tell her that. We might as well visit her once. She lives near San Francisco. My sister also lives there.”
“I really would like to do that. You have a good understanding with your mother?”
“Oh, yes, very good. She is a little bit unusual. She always carries plastic bags along and gathers everything she finds. Then she permanently searches around in the bag, to see, what came together.
That sounded interesting.
“How come your mother speaks German?”
“She studied for some years in East-Germany. Actually she wanted to go to Cuba, but there she did not get a place. She studied medicine, probably as the oldest student in history.” He laughed.
“Where was she born?” I innocently asked.

His face darkened and reluctant he answered:  “in Russia. But she wasn’t there for long”, he quickly to added. (..)

Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie. P. 42 

More about Regina Fischer


Joan Fischer 

Fischer's (half-) sister, Joan Fischer bought Fischer's first chess-set and took care of him in his first years because his mother had to work very hard. She accompanied Bobby in 1957, when he was 14, on his trip to Moscow  and she visited him during his match in 1972 in Reykjavik. It looks like they had a good relation. In later life (around 1985) Fischer even lived for a while at her place. But then she threw him out because of his anti-Semitic views.

Joan Fischer

My interest was aroused, so I asked further: “And your sister? You can get along with her?”
“Not anymore. I lived for a while at her place, but then she threw me out her house.”
“Why that then?” I asked, shocked.
“She is crazy. She married a Jew, and I have told her the truth about Jews. "Isn’t it possible, that she married a Jew, because she herself is Jewish?” I knew it was a dangerous question.  
“That’s what she and my mother keep up. But that’s complete nonsense. No, just he is Jewish, and she was absolutely foolish, to marry him. I have tried to open her eyes, time and again. Finally she said she would throw me out, when I did not stop. And that’s what happened.” He laughed, a little bit shy. (..)
And how about your father?” I asked unwary.
Bobby’s expression completely changed.
“I don’t want to talk about that.”
It was the only time I saw him really disturbed and distracted, and I never tried to ask about his father again.

Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie. P. 42
 

More about Joan Fischer


Jacqueline Piatigorsky

In 1961, the year a serious rift between mother and eighteen year old son developed, an incident with Jacqueline Piatigorsky, wife of the well-known cellist Gregor Piatigorsky, took place. She wanted to attend both the game and her husband’s concert. Mrs. Piatigorsky asked Bobby to rearrange his game on Sunday. When he refused he was forfeited.  

Jacqueline Piatigorsky
Jacqueline Piatigorsky

A year later, in his first major interview, Fischer expressed strong opinions about women. He withdrew from a chess tournament because a woman, (Lisa Lane,  USA woman Champion) was playing in the event.

"They're all weak, all women. They're stupid compared to men. They shouldn't play chess, you know. They're like beginners. They lose every single game against a man. There isn't a woman player in the world I can't give knight-odds to and still beat."
1962, Harper's Magazine 



"Chess-mothers" 

It seems that Fischer always searched for relations similar to the relation he had with his mother and sister. He loved it to be "mothered" by a woman, even by women who were much younger then him.

He's completely natural. He plays no roles. He's like a child. Very, very simple.
Zita Rajcsanyi (17 years old)


"After the extensive appetizer followed the eagerly awaited spaghetti in Shell sauce. With a habitual assumption he pushed his plate towards me. By one of our earlier diners I had started, not completely unselfish, to cut up his noodle in small parts, because he could not get acquainted with the "roll-up" art and was in a constant battle with the spaghetti. I was pleasantly surprised, he wasn’t offended, but accepted my offer grateful."
Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie

There were several chess-mothers in Fischer's life, like Lina Grumette, a Los Angeles chess promoter, who managed to bring Fischer back to the chessboard in 1970. Also Mrs. Saidy, mother of Anthony Saidy, played a role  in that event. Another chessmother is Ruth Harring, a chess personality from San Jose. 

“I don’t think he’s any stranger then my own husband. Chess personalities in general are introverted. They don’t deal with social relationships well. But there is nothing wrong with him, he is certainly not crazy,”
Ruth Harring, 1983, Los Angeles Times

But the most important person in Fischer's life is perhaps Claudia Makarow. She was, like Fischer, a member of the WCG and the “Pasadena matron”, mentioned in the LAT article, “who allegedly censors his mail, pays his rent and is the only person who always knows where he lives”. 

On the way back Bobby called as usual Claudia and as always he ordered the call on her costs. She did not like that very much, and after she informed him there weren’t any new developments, she wanted to end the conversation. Bobby cried:
“Wait, wait! I haven't finished yet”  But what exactly he had to discuss, wasn’t all that clear to him and Claudia simply put the phone on the hook. Bobby dialed immediately again, once more collect. As soon as Claudia heard his voice, she hang up another time.
This process repeated during my stay in Los Angeles in a similar form almost every evening. (..) .. She was obviously Bobby’s only conversation partner. 
Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie  


Dutch girl on beach

Fischer is often portrayed as reluctant to be around women, that they intimidate him and that he does not know how to handle himself around them. Jeremy Silman knew Bobby Fischer around 1962.

One time we were at the beach and Bobby saw a pretty girl sitting by herself. He went up to her and said, "I'm Bobby Fischer, the great chess player." It was a good opening gambit, but she had never heard of him. Her reply made him realise she was foreign, so he asked where she was from. She said, "Holland." Bobby said, "Do you know Max Euwe?" (The Dutch former World Champion). She'd never heard of him. Now Bobby had run out of ideas. He shrugged his shoulders and walked away.
Jeremy Silman

"Sometimes girls write me. One girl in Yugoslavia sent me a whole slew of love letters. I don't know how she got my address. She was in a crowd watching me play. She says when I left there the stars fell out of the sky over Yugoslavia, or something like that."
1962, Harper's Magazine 



Cindy

Fischer did not seem to be very interested in girls who wanted him for his status as a brilliant chess player.

During this 1970 stay in California, Fischer would often visit Ron and his wife Marilyn at their home in Compton. During these visits, Bobby met a friend of Marilyn's named Cindy who would sometimes give him a ride back to his LA apartment at the end of an evening of chess and Chinese food. When Ron asked him if he was interested in going out with her, Fischer said no.

"Why not? She's really cute."
"Yeah. But she knows I'm Bobby Fischer."

Bobby wouldn't go out with women who knew who he was but he was too shy to ask out the ones who didn't.
Ronnie Gross, The Man Who Knew Bobby Fischer 

Because of his well-known antipathy to girls, every time Bobby has a date it becomes almost front-page news. Larry Evans got him a girl in Argentina; he got married in Yugoslavia; he danced with a girl in Iceland; the rumors are both silly and frequent.
Ruben Fine, Bobby Fischer's Conquest of the World's Chess Championship 1973  



Miyoko Watai

There is another intriguing relation in Fischer's life. Miyoko Watai, president and secretary general of the Japan Chess Association and a friend of Fischer's since 1973.  

“He was like a child,” said Ms. Watai. “Chess had been his whole life, so he was sheltered from the world in some ways. Once he made up his mind, he would never change it, no matter what anyone said. That didn’t always make people happy.” 

Watai and Fischer have been living together since 2000, living in Watai's home in Kamata downtown in Tokyo's Ota Ward. It was the start of their de facto marriage. After Fischer's arrest the couple wanted to legally tie the knot but the status of their plans is, since Fischer's release, unclear. 

Miyoko Watai announcement to marry Bobby Fischer

"I am a pawn, but in chess there is such a thing as pawn promotion, where a pawn can become a queen," soft-spoken Miyoko Watai, 59, said. "He is my king and I want to become his queen so we can join together and win."

Watai said she was not worried about a report by a Philippine newspaper on Monday quoting a local chess grandmaster as saying Fischer had a Filipino wife and a child living there. "Bobby has said he has never been married until now, so I don't think there is a problem," Watai said.
Reuters

Miyoko Watai, 59, acting president of the Japan Chess Association, said: "I didn’t know. Bobby has never told me this. "I have asked him in the past if he had a child and he never said anything. He told me that he is single."
The Scotsman

Bobby opened the door of the washing-machine and pulled out, to my astonisment, various things of Fine- to Cook Wash. “Have a look” he said worried and hold a perforated piece of material in front of my nose.“I don’t know why but my socks always get ruined in the washing-machine.” I took the miserable remains in my hand. “they are synthetic or something?” It wasn’t exactly to determine. “My acquaintance from Japan send them to me. I also have shirts and a nice jacket from her, but most of it is a bit small. You hardly find my size in Japan. And in the wash everything even gets smaller”. He pulled a small size cotton shirt out of the machine. “You wash everything at 60 degrees?” “Of course, otherwise the towels don’t get clean. And many other things”. He seemed a bit embarresed and I could imagine which other things. “You should wash a few things not too hot. Above all the socks and perhaps the shirts not.”
Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie, P47

Chessbase interview with Miyoko Watai


Petra Dautov

Petra Dautov worked hard for his come back in 1992. She wrote an interesting book about her engagement with Fischer. "Merely about Hitler and food" does not give credit to the book. The book is funny, it’s human and it gives an idea "how he really is" (the subtitle of the book). One thing is peculiar. In her book Petra writes critical towards people (Jan Timman, Lothar Schmidt) who talk to the press about Fischer. But didn't she gave much more personal details about Fischer then anybody ever before? 

Journalists were curious after the exact nature of the relation she had with Bobby Fischer but she always refused to answer "indecent" questions.

 

Here you find an episode from "Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie" where Fischer tries to share his interest in women, from an illustrated magazine, with Petra.

One-day Bobby surprised me with a theme of a complete different matter. We had made an appointment for a “second breakfast”, and Bobby came, despite the abnormal early hour, towards me in a very good humor. We had hardly taken our place, when he grabbed his plastic bag, which he always took along when the capacity of his jacket bags were exhausted, and joyfully explained:  
“I have to show you something”
I got anxious. Unpleasant memories of our time in Los Angeles came back. “A book?” I asked carefully?“What? Oh no, just have a look.” He put an illustrated magazine on the table, of which the front-page showed in any case a girl one can designate as appearing in spare clothes.
 That was not at all what I expected and I could just suppress a laugh. Anyhow I did not know how to deal with such a magazine. “You like it, yes?” he finally asked amused. That was a little bit exaggerated. He started to page through the publication, obviously feverishly searching for something even more interesting. Filled with enthusiasm he showed me an identical image.
“She looks good, yes?”
“Ah, I believe that I’m not the right person, to judge something like that.’
“Why not?” he asked irritated. Now I really had to laugh. “You know, maybe you should have showed me some pictures of attractive supermen.” His disconcern amused me. 
“Forget it”, he said, “I was just joking.”
But after a while he seemed at ease and turned again towards the opened magazine.
“Just have a look”, he requested me and pointed at a next image. I did not find it so amusing anymore. “Not my taste”, I said therefore. That did not annoy him. “Translate for me, what it says.”
I did him that pleasure and explained him a few lines, although it did not make much fun.
“The text is really not interesting.” That was even very benevolently formulated.
“But it says from which town she comes.” Apparently he had a diligent attempt to understand the German text.
“I hope you don’t believe everything, what is printed in such a magazine? I asked him, in unbelieve.
“But of course” Read on.”
“No really, for that you have to find yourself somebody else.”
He teased me for quite sometime, but I did not let myself persuade, because I was convinced that when I gave in this time, it would not be the only time. In fact Bobby explained me at the end of our little discussion:
“You know, I buy this magazine every Friday. I get up extra early and get it right away at nine o’clock, when the shop opens…
You must be joking, I said. “But no, it’s true. I get up at eight o’clock, so I can have breakfast and be at nine at the shop. 
Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie  

“It’s fascinating, to get along with you, for a woman you are very clever”.  
Petra Dautov, 1995, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie

More about Petra Dautov


Zita Raiczanyi

When Petra Dautov left the scene Zita Raiczanyi, a 17-year-old fan and Hungarian junior, took over. She talked Fischer, like Lina Grumette in 1970, into playing the rematch in 1992. It is said that Zita Raiczanyi was the love of Fischer's life. Unfortunately for Fischer he wasn't the love of Zita's life. She truly must be a classy and very special woman, especially since she does not exactly resembles the beautiful woman Fischer seems so fond of. Or maybe she does? 

Zita Raiczanyi

Pablo: Why have you decided to live in Budapest, where you are right now?
Fischer: I like the mineral bathes very much. It is really fantastic, and if you come here, you should see the women, they got the most beautiful women in the world. I am not exaggerating, you see more beautiful women in Budapest in five minutes, then you see in a week in LA.
Pablo: Hahahahaha, really.
Fischer: When I say LA, I am including Holywood and Beverly Hills, I am not exaggerating , you got really sexy beautiful women with beautiful asses.
Pablo: We envy you.
Fischer: You look in American movies, they always trying to take the camera's away from the women asses, they have tiny asses, because of the steroids they put in the meat, because of the artificial pumpkin doughnuts and all this garbage. They have real food here.
 

More about Zita Raiczanyi


Yvette Seirawan

This is what Yvette's husband had to say about Fischer's supposed shyness with women:

Bobby has a good eye for the ladies. We were at a closing ceremony (1992 match PvdH) and there were a lot of ladies swirling around him and Bobby was enjoying every second of it. I said to him, "How is it Bobby every time I see you, you are with a beautiful woman?" He looks at me and in a nanosecond says, "I'm lucky here." He was having a really good time. When he was around my lady friend Yvette, Yvette and he engaged in deep discussions, she kissed him on the cheek good night and Bobby was just very happy, thankful and said how very pleased he was to meet her.
Schakend Nederland, 1998

Yvette Nagel
Yvette Seirawan


Alexandra Kosteniuk

Anchor: He (Spassky) said that if you had done something wrong he had done the same and should be put into your cell with you.  Fischer: I don't want him in my cell. I want a chick. How about that Russian chick, what's her name, Kosteniuk? 


Barbara Streisand

Anchor: When you where in highschool is it true that one of your classmates was Barbara Streisand?
Fischer: I heard this! I remember some mousy looking girl, maybe that was her, I don't know.
Anchor: She was your best friend, according to the report.
Fischer: This I don't believe at all, no, no, no, not at all.


Justine Ong

Fischer's involvement with a Chinese woman: Justine Ong from the Philippines. A remarkable story, confirmed by Tim Krabbe and Rene Chun. Fischer selected Ong from several candidates, who were willing to carry his child. The child, Jinky Ong, was born in the spring of 2001. Fischer supports mother and child and it was said that he visited them every two month. 

Latest news on Fischer's daughter

The next conversation took place during one of the radio interviews, September, 2000. 

Dagupan, September 8, 2000  
Female caller: I have a question, not about chess. Sir, have you been married first? 
Fischer: No, I've never been married 
Female caller: Has it perhaps? 
Fischer: No. 
Female caller: Would you like to get married? Ha, ha, ha ,ha. 
Fischer: Yes, that would be very nice 
Female caller: Do you have children? 
Fischer: No. No, I don't have children. 

Manila, September 26, 2000 
Radio presenter: We have a question here from a female caller, a female fan, from the land of romantics: You never got married. You have someone special today or not?
 
Fischer: Ha, ha, ha. I want to keep all the doors open here, if you want to confession me. (Big laughter)
 
Radio-presenter: Well, he is still handsome, ladies and gentlemen. You saw him in the old pictures? He is still good-looking.



 

Chess against Women

We have four reports of women playing chess against Fischer: Miyoko Watai, Cathy Forbes, Zhaoqin Peng and Susan Polgar. 

Miyoko Watai first met the grandmaster when he toured Japan after his 1972 triumph, and after playing a match against Fischer (“He beat me pretty badly,” she says), the two remained friends.
Metropolis, August 2004

Cathy Forbes did not get a real change and blundered after 27 moves. 

"Bobby wants to talk to you." I came over to his table and he said "We'll play a game, just quickly." I thought, "where? I don't see a set, clock etc." and then I realised he was indicating his own pocket set.
Chess Monthly, August 1993

Zhaoqin Peng

Zhaoqin Peng: “About ten years ago I played a few Chess960 games with Bobby Fischer in Budapest. Svetozar Gligoric took me to Budapest, where I met Fischer. He did not want to play classical chess, only Chess960. We just played a few blitz games, I even managed to win a few, and I liked it a lot.
CEMF, February 2006 

Susan Polgar the oldest Polgar sister says she had very good results against Fischer and implicates revealing the score would embarrass him. 

"I had very good results against Bobby. But the final score is something I  would never reveal unless Bobby consents. Trust is something that is very important to him."
GM Susan Polgar, March 05, 2003


Bobby Fischer and Susan Polgar
Bobby and Susan

She has quite a different opinion about Fischer then her younger sister, Sofia. Sofia wished she never had met Fischer, see the video, Susan on the other hand has very good memories of Fischer: "He was very nice to me and my family". Follow this link to read her complete comment.


She disappointingly ignores questions about the clock Fischer wants back from the Polgar family. To her credit we have to say that she is consistent in her respect for Fischer. 

Susan after his arrest in 2004 (Fischer's third time in jail!): 

"He is still a big chess legend for me. My dream is to continue his legacy,"

 "He has already received enough punishment for having not been able to return to the United States,"

Although he is "kind and a gentleman" most of the time, Polgar said she simply did her best to change the subject when Fischer occasionally expressed certain extreme anti-American and anti-Jewish views."


"It was very strange because a lot of his friends were Jewish" said Polgar, who now runs a chess center in Queens. "He would get around that by saying, 'He is a nice person despite the fact that he is Jewish.'"

NYNewsday.com 
 

One day Susan, Fischer, Pal Benko and Benko's wife went out to a small coffee shop on one of the side streets of Budapest. They had a chessboard on the table and were analyzing a position together. At some point, Bobby noticed a camera flash go off. He started panicking, paid the bill quickly and dashed out toward Zsuzsa's car. The men with the camera chased them, first on foot and then by car. Bobby behaved like a paranoid. He asked Zsuzsa to speed up as the car behind got closer. "It was like a scene from a movie," Zsuzsa recalls. "Only I was in the scene, too. Bobby was covering the side window of the car, with his exceptionally big hands, to shield from a possible photo shot. He asked me to drive around several blocks, in order to 'lose' the intruders. He was so nervous and frightened, as if the cameras were guns and he was running for his life. Finally we managed to get rid of our followers and Fischer calmed down.
Queen of the Kings Game - Susan Polgar & Jacob Shutzman

Bobby and susan playing chess
Bobby and Susan playing chess. In the background the chessclock, which Fischer left at the Polgar family and now wants back, according to one of the radio-interviews.


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